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Oh, another note:In the Canadian military, the Catholic priest chaplains have to bring in civilian priests on weekend when Bishop letters are released because they so often break our Charter of Rights and Freedoms, the padre could be arrested for hate speech!

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The lack of care of children within the Catholic Church is mind-blowing, and I say this as someone who taught for a Catholic School Board for 30 years. The Church wanted us to “indoctrinate” our little students into becoming obedient little lifelong Catholics but never gave a penny to our schools. Everytime we had a hostile gov’t, the Church took the side of the politicians not the side of the educators! And when schools owned by the diocese were blatantly unsafe and in need of repair, they refuse to repair them because the cathedral renovation needed to be paid for first. Let God protect the lives of the children, it wasn’t their job! In Canada, add to that how only the RC church refused to pay their reparations to the fund for Indigenous children who attended residential schools. And can I point out that only the RC residential schools had electric chairs? They had a low electrical charge in which a dampened child would be placed for being “disobedient”, like crying out when being whipped or sexually abused. When I retired, the first thing I did was switch my tax support to the public schools. (Catholic schools here are funded by tax money) I had had enough.

That being said, there have been some amazingly kind and supportive priests and nuns along the way. They have been just as angry at the abuse. One, who was regional head of his order, was informed by police that one of his priests had a complaint against him for sexual abuse of a child. He spoke with the priest, not under confession. The priest admitted he had done it and the regional head immediately removed him from the order, started the process of defrocking him, told him to pack his bags and figure out how to find his own lawyer. But he is the only one I know of who has ever done this.

As for clergy “keeping to their lane”, being politically involved IS keeping to their lane. It’s all part of social justice and sticking up for the poor and vulnerable.

I no longer attend the RC church because they refuse to live up to their formal apologies. They are hypocrites in their official stances and they pressure the best of their priests to live according to that hypocrisy. This is very long, but one more story…

Canadian bishops put out horrific letters too. Years ago they put out a terrible one against the LGBTQ community. About 2 years later they put out another terrible one on marriage, basically saying women should stay in abusive marriages because they had taken the vows, they must live. Nothing about men stopping the abuse. At the time I had a wonderful Dutch priest, about 80 yrs old, had lived his childhood in Holland in WWII, knew hardship and abuse from the Nazis, displacement camps, etc. He, too, was expected to read these letters. The weekend of the marriage letter he simply said, “There is a letter from the bishops on marriage at the back. If you care to read it, go ahead, I don’t particularly recommend it. And after that letter about gays, I am certainly not going to read it out loud!” Our congregation, a mix of farmers and highly placed government officials, loved him all the more for it.

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